This tang stamp was used by Camillus from 1946 to 1950. Founded in 2019, Militaria-Deal.com has established itself as the go-to site for militaria collectors. It is further described as "Used in all types of emergency kits." Camillus knives are one of my most favorites knives to date. It doesn't get any better then this S-449 A and S-449B Prototype Hunting Knives with different As a result, the new knifes handle was saturated with deterrent. --> 51,748 pieces, Kent Stagged Rosewood with steel rivets, same as above. Our tactical knives include a range of folding, fixed blade and neck . Note the non-italic font & the length of line . the Army needed one as well to replace the M2 pocket knife. M8 (2nd Model): Same as 1st Model but with the addition of a hook to attach the sheath to the M1936 belt. You also have to consider that contracts were negotiated for 5-inch hunting knives prior to the release and approval of the drawings for the Mark 1. SKIP. This link will bring you to AAPK's Camillus Collector specific discussion forum. KA-BAR, Robeson, Pal, Utica, Ontario and Camillus were the major manufacturers of the Mark 2. This tang stamp was used by Camillus from the later 1970s into the 1980s. Above that it simply says "Army Air Forces". It is a scout/utility knife made by Camco, a sub brand of Camillus, that was distribuited as a premium gift for those SPRING HILL CUTLERY (eBay: bargainseller02), Camillus U.S.A. American Wildlife Series Charging Bear Lockback knife 10D NIB, Camillus U.S.A. SEE PICS TANG STAMPS: CAMILLUS CUTLERY CO CAMILLUS NY USA TANG STAMPS: CAMILLUS NEW YORK USA 42 LENGTH (CLOSED): 3 3/16 . 12" Fighter Tang stamped USN MK2/Camillus NY. The other side on the tang it looks like a faint serial number. Any I'll leave it at this, there is some conjecture out there on what these knives might or might not be. Unbelievable piece. To remedy this problem the US Army had the Trench Knifes Mle1917, Mle1918 and Mle1918 mk1 manufactured. I have not This is the shortened version with the 5" blade. generate quite a few questions so we hope this is a help to a few folks. I have never seen that variation. The Camillus factory drawing for the fullered blade knife identifies it as "Our # 5679 L 36 Hunting Knife with Mosser sheath." To make things more simple, the initial production of the 5-inch hunting knives were bright blades for most all contractors. Mikedon thanks for posting the pictures. With decades of experience under his belt, Adolph spearheaded the growth and expansion of the Camillus knife company into what we know it as today. Never used or Vintage Camillus U.S.A. Its total length is 292mm (11 5/8 inches). factory or used by them. I know my knives - maybe not as well as my mother - but enough to write helpful guides for you. Dated 10/30/1941. Instead, he sought out a smaller cutlery brand in Camillus and joined the management team. Like most every enduring knife manufacturer, Camillus used several different tang stamps to mark its knives. Call (03) 4245 1141 Sword Brand Folding Hunter 26 NIB, SYRACUSE KNIFE CO. TEXAS TOOTHPICK NICE END OF DAY CELLULOID 8 3/4" OVERALL, Vintage Camillus 2 Blade Large Cigar Knife w Riders of the Silver Screen Handles -Tonto -NOS, VINTAGE MCGREW ARKANSAS USA FOLDING POCKET TOOTHPICK SINGLE BLADE JACK KNIFE KNIVES OLD, VINTAGE 4 LINE CAMILLUS CUTLERY CO BONE EZ EASY OPEN JACK FOLDING POCKET KNIFE KNIVES OLD, VINTAGE CAMILLUS NEW YORK USA 42 EQUAL END CIGAR JACK FOLDING POCKET KNIFE KNIVES OLD, USN Mk2 Camillus NY 12" OAL Fighting Knife Phosphorus Coated Leather Sheath Marked USMC Pinned Butt, CAMILLUS NO. bone and 1466 dozen made in stagged Rosewood. Both marked CAMILLUS over N.Y. but the one on the left the font is larger. On the blade -> Manufacturer's name + Type ex : PAL USM3, 3rd Type marking (1944) : Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. S-6708 RW marked Guardless fish knife stamped Krome Plate, Besides showing you how to date a Camillus knife properly, I also give some tips to avoid falling into the fake vintage Camillus knife scam. 5684 S50: Dated 8/21/1945 this design uses the Mark 2 blade, Important note : As the fiber sheaths are quite fragile (we see them quite often with the broken end), the M8 A1 was modified after the war. Below the knives are short write up of what they are. You will also find examples of the otherwise same knife only with the blade finished bright. by glennbad Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:55 am, Post Thanks for your help. Note that the Camillus brand emerged from bankruptcy in 2009, but this page will remain dedicated to the pre-bankruptcy knives. By the close of 1943, a satisfactory method was applied. Wadsworth and Dixon were all house brands of Kastor. Most had blued blades, though some were polished. This is a used Camillus scout/utility knife. ONE CAMILLUS 1960 US Military Survival Pocket Knife . The guard is double quillons, one of which is bent forward to allow thumb rest, its length is 57.7mm, its width is 13.3mm for a thickness of 3mm. Yes it is WW2 period. As with any military knife, be careful not to fall victim to the opinions of so-called experts, especially when they attribute particular knives to units like the Devils Brigade, Commandos, OSS, Underwater Demolition Team, etc. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The only way to stay in the knife business and keep running a profit was to start making and selling them domestically. large bakelite pommel and multiple spacers. In New York City. Otherwise, have someone who does. The handle diameter was larger (1.2 inches wide) and had a pinned-on stepped pommel 1.35 inches wide. I appreciate you writing this post and the rest of the site is very good. Not Adopted, Case and Catt got the Q knife Bone stag and CR guard made in In the testing Western won the contract The Cattaraugus 225-Q had one of the strongest blades of any World War II combat knife. Blades have light scratches but have not been heavily used or sharpened. You will find many pictures of Camillus knife patterns. Sword Brand Stockman 78. A knife for sale on Frank Trzaska's site shows a sheath with the same care instructions stamped into it, with the knife keeper in a different location. These two knives are commonly identified as WW2 pilots knives. I personally looked into every draw and found these This type of scabbard was manufactured only during the year 1943. Camillus Factory still shot courtesy of Tom Williams showing In 1902, Adolph Kastor, a powerhouse of a leader, bought Camillus and the company grew quickly. Saturday, May 19, 2018, is Armed Forces Day. If you are interested in the Camillus M4 $57.99. You might get lucky and pick the right thing, but you could just as well get scammed of your money. The total quantity of M3 manufactured in this short period of time was about 2,590,240 pieces. These fakes are even made with materials that age fast, tricking you into thinking that the knife has indeed seen a lot of years. The old Camillus went gone out of business due to poor sales, a workers strike and a lockoutand then the long-time knife manufacturer filed for bankruptcy. This page is a recognition and identification guide for military fighting knives. by glennbad Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:44 am, Post Is it a genuine vintage or merely a reproduction? Hunting knife: Camillus hunting and fishing knives have long blades. Engineers. $129.99. Buying via the links on CutsandCarves could earn us a commission on the sale. The next change was in August 1961, reducing the length of the blade to 5 inches. On the blade and guard -> Manufacturer's name + Type ex : PAL USM3. has the Mark 2 pommel not the M3 version. Its brand name and intellectual property rights were purchased by Acme United Corporation, which re-launched the Camillus brand in May 2009 using modern materials. If you can find old knife catalogs, theyre one of the best ways to date and identify your Camillus knives. The knife featured stacked leather handles, double-sided steel guards, and flat steel pommels. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Used but is solid. I had the Colonial and Geneva knives flipped the wrong way, You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. The tang stamp shown here is known as Camillus' three line straight stamp. They adopted the single pin We can also see models with a brown plastic washer on the guard and a black plastic washer on the pommel. Camillus produced some 13 million knives for the US military during the war, which included the famous Marine Corps Raider Stiletto, M-3 Trench Knives, USMC Mark 2 and USN Mark 2 knives and TL-29 Signal Corps pocket knives, among many others. Case (W.R. Case & sounds) --> 300,465 pieces, Some of these washers have a smaller diameter in order to form grooves to facilitate gripping. pins marked Kent, As above with different tang markings, still a Kent. Any review of World War II military fixed blades must include several examples of Western knives. Ending Apr 30 at 5:24AM PDT 3d 9h. Show me your knife, and I'll tell you who you are. In late 1943 the knife was redesigned and the handle and butt were retained by a single pin through the butt and tang. Later in the war the U.S.S. But there are clever reproductions that can fool you into thinking its the real thing. Camillus started making the JPSKs in 1959. The M3 was selected because it was easier to manufacture and had a thinner blade, which was 6.75 inches and sharpened the full length, excluding the stamped tang area. Thank you for the information glennbad. Editors note: The following is by Richard D. White. Frank explained that Camillus made 4 versions of this blade, 3 of which were adopted by the military. Most folks don't know The 4th is actually the result of the assembly of blades of the 2nd type and guards of the 3rd type. joined the originals, now we have all that were present at the time of the is the only one that survived the Marines. If you dont go to knife shows, you might also have some luck with veteran knife collectors in your locale. It has a couple of chips out of the bone on the pile side and the tip is broken off the caplifter. Throughout the Vietnam War, Camillus produced the GI four-blade utility knife, the pilot survival knife and the U.S. Marine Corps 7-inch . M8 (1st Model): Made of fiber, metal and spun cotton canvas. Its width is 21.8mm (21.8mm) and thickness is 4.5mm (4.5mm). The new design that was adopted was the 6 inch JPK. The company then had 20 employees. edge. USMC Raider reproduction with fine pewter handle. Camillus did use up the rather small quantity of 1966 blades when the change was made.
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